Rise and Fall of the Ottoman Empire

Thank God for the warriors, Catholic, Orthodox and Anglican, who helped speed its demise.

Music: Immediate Music - Crusade.

Comments

[Stefano]

I won't thank God for those Anglican and Catholic 'Warriors' who sided with the Ottomen Empire over Orthodox Russia during the Crimean War because their economic interests were threatened. Apparently the British Empire was ok with propping up the ailing Ottoman Empire so it could take a share later when Russia was out of the way.

[J. B. Aitken]

Yeah, Britain was wrong for that, but that's not the whole story. The West fought the Ottomans at Lepanto and Vienna, which fully stopped the Muslim advance forever.

And for what it's worth Serbian Orthodox often alongside the Ottomans at Lepanto.

[Embryo Parson]

From the English Advocates Facebook page, commenting on this video:

British Colonialism: Let's blame the modern day English solely, reprimand them for it and demand recompense.

Turkish Ottoman Colonialism: Let's not say one single word about it.

Bottom line is that the existential threat par excellence to Christendom was defeated, and bringing in the Byzantine intrigue that marked the Crimean War, etc. does not change that. Today we must fight its remnants as it attempts a resurgence, along with another existential threat, liberal-leftism. On that last note, tell me again, Stefano: where do your political sympathies lie? To what party there in Australia do you belong? And sorry, saying that you're "apolitical" won't do this time around.

[Stefano]

A few more interesting details on the Crimean War

1) The Archbishop of Paris, Marie-Dominique Sibour, called for his flock to participate in a crusade against the Photians (Orthodox). It was well received.

2) Greece decided to take advantage of Turkey's preoccupation with the Crimean War by attacking Turkey to free some of their enslaved brothers in Thessaly and Epirus
Britain and France were so alarmed that they blockaded and occupied the Athenian port of Piraeus (and other Greek ports) to stop the Greek army helping and supplying the rebels.
Needless to say, the Greek rebels in Epirus were ruthlessly crushed.

Yes, Serbians were forced to be vassals of the Ottoman Empire. Serbians fought at the siege of Constantinople in 1453 on the side of the Turks. Earlier Emperor Manuel Palaeologos was forced to fight Christian enclaves in Anatolia in the 1390s. In Greece under the Turks certain areas had Christian militia to control the local population. They were called armatoles ( or sinners) by the population. A cruel repressive regime forced them to do this. Not exactly the same as the British siding with the Turks during the Crimean War.

Hey there J. B. Aiken, how are you? I was wondering how many Protestant nations fought at Lepanto in defence of Christendom?

[J. B. Aitken]

I'm fine. You are telling me all of this stuff I already know. As to how many Protestants fought, I am not sure. Protestants were mainly in Northern Europe and traveling to the Meditteranean wasn't always easy.

Though Cromwell a century later destroyed the Turkish navy.

[J. B. Aitken]

This comment came up on another post but I'll address it here. Stefano, you asked what we comfortable Americans were doing. Well, a few years ago obama wanted to bomb Assad and indirectly aid ISIS. It came to a vote in the US Senate.

I know several Congressman--and people in my church work for them--and through contacts and others helped contribute to a nay vote in Congress.

[Stefano]

Hi Embyro Parson
I just asked you a question on another post so it would be rude if I didn't respond to your question on my politics. Well, I have never, ever been a member of any political party. In. Australia we have compulsory voting. We have a two party system at the moment but that is slowly breaking down. The major Conservative party is called (funnily enough) the Liberals. There is also the National Party which is strong in rural areas and is often in coalition with the Liberals. The major left wing party is the Labor Party. The Greens (left wing naturally) have been increasing in influence in the last 20 years. I have voted for all of these parties at one time or another. Currently the Liberal Party is in the process of implementing a referendum on same sex marriage. I will vote no.

Does this answer you question?

[Embryo Parson]

"Does this answer you question?"

Not really, no. It's actually a very weaselly kind of answer, but it tends to confirm what I believe about your leftward political orientation.